tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post1461071386428317951..comments2023-11-03T08:44:12.478-07:00Comments on James' Random, Stimulating, Missional, Spiritual Thoughts: generational differences - why blogging has typos and emails can be in lower caseJames Noredhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13707292759635770946noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-81233303002738186042008-04-17T08:09:00.000-07:002008-04-17T08:09:00.000-07:00James, I guess this means I don't need to correct ...James, I guess this means I don't need to correct your spelling anymore. You're on your own. :)<BR/><BR/>Linda H.Linda Hardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00611982544890970167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-33913358094145389202008-04-14T18:44:00.000-07:002008-04-14T18:44:00.000-07:00I agree that conversational blogging (not worrying...I agree that conversational blogging (not worrying too much about perfect grammar, etc.) is perfectly fine. However, it is unfortunate that MUCH can be lost...too many punctuation errors make it difficult for the reader to follow. For example, I had to go back and reread several sentences in the blog because they didn't make sense to me the first time. But I know you were trying to make a point by not using any capitalization, etc.<BR/><BR/>I guess as an English major and writing minor (emphasis in studies on linguistics and technical writing), these are things you don't miss. <BR/><BR/>**** Most people may wonder WHY in the world ANYONE would think such in-depth proofreading is necessary. ****<BR/><BR/>TAKE THE CASE OF THE 16 MILLION DOLLAR COMMA. (I'm sure legal students hear about this one, just like English/writing students do.)<BR/><BR/>I never remember the math exactly, but this really happened. I may just get the numbers wrong:<BR/><BR/>There was a will where $64 Million was being given to several decendants. Because the will read that this money should go in equal shares to "Tom, Rick, Fred and Bill," (note NO comma after "Fred"), the money was divided into THREE parts, as if Fred and Bill were a group or an entity. <BR/><BR/>Tom got a third, Rick got a third, and Fred and Bill had to SPLIT a third, therefore each receiving 1/6. I'm sure Fred and Bill would have each been happier with 1/4 than 1/6. Especially when their cousins (or whomever exactly Tom and Rick were) each got 1/3. (btw - Those are fictitious names. College was close to 20 years ago...so I've long since forgotten the real names.)<BR/><BR/>It was argued and argued whether the person writing the will meant for it to be divided into FOUR equal parts instead of THREE...but either Tom or Rick must have had slicker lawyers than the other guys, because they won.<BR/><BR/>The person writing the will, if they DID mean for it to be 4 equal shares, could have avoided the whole problem by putting a comma after "Fred." Then it would have been clear that the equal shares should have gone to the 4 separate people equally.<BR/><BR/>So, while I think it is OK to text and blog very informally, you need to be ABLE to write formally when necessary. It is very common for someone to be misunderstood because either their grammar, or punctuation, or both were not proper enough. Unfortunately, so many people today see grammar, spelling, and punctuation as unnecessary skills.<BR/><BR/>Ask Fred and Bill how necessary they are.Tarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09458210308029891129noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-38471662732305239032008-04-14T15:25:00.000-07:002008-04-14T15:25:00.000-07:00Kevin,So glad that you have joined us, and that yo...Kevin,<BR/><BR/>So glad that you have joined us, and that you like the blog! You are asute in pointing out what is often felt by younger generations--that informality and casualness is often viewed to be authentic and refreshing. It is why having some roughness in a logo or design tells younger generations, "we understand you." (Note the rough edges in our church web page - www.highpointechurchofchrist.org.)<BR/><BR/>For instance, in order to get past the formal cliches of prayers, younger people will often say in a prayer "Lord, we just wanna . . . " Ironically, this can become yet another cliche. <BR/><BR/>If we want to connect with people today, we need to at least recognize these trends and be aware of them, even if we do not entirely accept them. If I were to submit blog posts each time that were formal treatises, few would read it. And I love good writing! (Sometimes I sneak a few in, however.) Blogs should have at least some informal and personal character if they are going to connect. People can read text books. They want personal insights.<BR/><BR/>Preaching has been described as the word of God proclaimed throught the force of personality. Blogs are information through the force of personality.<BR/><BR/>Great insight, Kevin.James Noredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13707292759635770946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-366038240329833112008-04-14T15:15:00.001-07:002008-04-14T15:15:00.001-07:00Marc and Bill,I understand your feelings. I would ...Marc and Bill,<BR/><BR/>I understand your feelings. I would think that upholding a higher standard for work correspondence, at least for a time, would be reasonable. As more and more people go to Blackberrys, however, I wonder if this will change. When typing an email, it really doesn't take a lot more effort to put in capitalization. However, I just recently got a Blackberry (actually, a Blackjack), and it takes a long time to write out long, precise messages. Usually, I will wait until I can get to a computer if I need to write this type of message so that I can keep up the quality. But I wonder whether the next generation, even in business, will do the same. It is one of those changes that is probably inevitable, as you say.James Noredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13707292759635770946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-38023997067055705232008-04-14T13:15:00.000-07:002008-04-14T13:15:00.000-07:00James,I cringe at the poor grammar and spelling wh...James,<BR/><BR/>I cringe at the poor grammar and spelling when people are texting. It is generational and probably inevitable like many things. However, it is still not acceptable in most business settings. I really to enjoy your blog. <BR/><BR/><BR/>BillAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-7008066948937821392008-04-14T09:10:00.000-07:002008-04-14T09:10:00.000-07:00James,Been enjoying your blog. Just to add my two...James,<BR/>Been enjoying your blog. Just to add my two cents to the conversation. I see blogging IM and casual email as more of a conversation and as such it is a communication style prone to casual grammar mistakes as we make in conversation with friends. When talking with friends I'm constantly prone to making up words and stumbling over my tongue. Also as a casual communication style it's nice to free form and not constantly re-check grammar and punctuation, which can take some of the spontaneity out of writing. It gives the conversation (err blog) a more personal touch. At the work place email I send and receive is tough to gauge sometimes as "tone" is impossible to imply in formal communication. I have often received emails and taken the tone as critical when the person sending it is just trying to be precise and formal. Blogging is a refreshing change of pace as it has an informal air that feels authentic and that is what I look for in a blog. Authenticity is a major point in what makes a blog good for me.<BR/><BR/>I agree with Marc about doing things well or not doing them at all, I just think that blogging with spelling and grammar mistakes is doing a blog well. Too formal of a blog is to my personal tastes stale and lacking in personality.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for all you are doing and keep up the updates.<BR/><BR/>Kevin MosesKevin Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07176157309737984546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25422068.post-82896106209463009742008-04-14T06:38:00.000-07:002008-04-14T06:38:00.000-07:00Deneen,Glad you liked this post! Here is a wikiped...Deneen,<BR/><BR/>Glad you liked this post! Here is a wikipedia article on "lol" (laugh out loud). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lol This article also highlights the controversy surrounding the change in communication that has been brought about by email and texting. Some think that this is absolutely horrible, while others think that it is fine.<BR/><BR/>One thing that the article does point out is that young people ought to be warned that most employers today still are looking for good grammar, capitalization, correct spelling, and communication without a lot of acronyms.James Noredhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13707292759635770946noreply@blogger.com